Skip to content
PoGoBud

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Zoroark's top six counters needs 0.46 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.58 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:21. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.
Zoroark · Tier 3
dark
Weak to
fightingbugfairy
Boss CP
18,947
Boss HP
3,600
Raid timer
180s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Zoroark at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 201(0.57)1(0.68)1(0.90)1:595.0
Level 251(0.47)1(0.57)1(0.74)1:403.9
Level 301(0.43)1(0.52)1(0.64)1:303.2
Level 351(0.43)1(0.48)1(0.61)1:252.8
Level 401(0.40)1(0.46)1(0.58)1:212.4
Level 451(0.39)1(0.45)1(0.57)1:182.2
Level 501(0.39)1(0.43)1(0.55)1:151.8

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Keldeo0.40

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Keldeo0.40
  • Kartana0.46
  • Lucario0.46
  • Terrakion0.47
  • Blaziken0.48
  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)0.50

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Enamorus (Incarnate)0.56
  • Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)0.56
  • Marshadow0.57
  • Machamp0.58
  • Tapu Koko0.58
  • Volcarona0.59

The party these numbers assume

1. Keldeo
Low Kick + Secret Sword
2. Kartana
Fury Cutter + Sacred Sword
3. Lucario
Force Palm + Aura Sphere
4. Terrakion
Double Kick + Sacred Sword
5. Blaziken
Counter + Aura Sphere
6. Zacian (Crowned Sword)
Metal Claw + Play Rough

See the full ranked counter list for Zoroark · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.

Not signed in

Your Pokebox is kept in this browser.

Theme