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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 5 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Zekrom's top six counters needs 3.37 trainers (round up: 4), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 4.63 (round up: 5). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 15:30. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Zekrom · Elite
dragonelectric
Weak to
groundicedragonfairy
Boss CP
61,654
Boss HP
20,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Zekrom at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 205(4.76)6(5.80)8(7.23)26:416.0
Level 255(4.20)5(4.93)6(5.94)22:426.0
Level 304(3.17)5(4.01)6(5.21)18:276.0
Level 353(2.87)4(3.78)5(4.94)17:246.0
Level 403(2.76)4(3.37)5(4.63)15:306.0
Level 453(2.62)4(3.24)5(4.30)14:545.9
Level 503(2.56)4(3.11)5(4.12)14:185.9

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Eternatus2.76

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Eternatus2.76
  • Kyurem (Black)3.00
  • Kyurem (White)3.20
  • Dialga (Origin)3.70
  • Garchomp3.74
  • Landorus (Therian)3.81

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

5 trainers at level 40

  • Dragapult4.33
  • Tapu Koko4.45
  • Excadrill4.50
  • Tapu Lele4.52
  • Mamoswine4.61
  • Palkia4.62

The party these numbers assume

1. Eternatus
Dragon Tail + Dynamax Cannon
2. Kyurem (Black)
Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock
3. Kyurem (White)
Dragon Breath + Ice Burn
4. Dialga (Origin)
Dragon Breath + Roar of Time
5. Garchomp
Dragon Tail + Breaking Swipe
6. Landorus (Therian)
Mud Shot + Sandsear Storm

See the full ranked counter list for Zekrom · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.