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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 23h 6m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 4 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Zacian (Crowned Sword)'s top six counters needs 2.91 trainers (round up: 3), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 3.50 (round up: 4). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 13:22. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Zacian (Crowned Sword) · Tier 5
fairysteel
Weak to
groundfire
Boss CP
67,864
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Zacian (Crowned Sword) at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 205(4.47)5(4.74)6(5.60)21:486.0
Level 254(3.83)4(3.96)5(4.82)18:136.0
Level 304(3.23)4(3.35)5(4.10)15:246.0
Level 353(2.96)4(3.09)4(3.76)14:126.0
Level 403(2.66)3(2.91)4(3.50)13:226.0
Level 453(2.55)3(2.79)4(3.30)12:516.0
Level 503(2.39)3(2.68)4(3.08)12:196.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Reshiram2.66

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Reshiram2.66
  • Blacephalon2.70
  • Heatran2.81
  • Groudon3.04
  • Ho-Oh3.09
  • Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)3.12

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Delphox3.36
  • Volcarona3.36
  • Landorus (Therian)3.34
  • Moltres3.41
  • Volcanion3.45
  • Garchomp3.51

The party these numbers assume

1. Reshiram
Fire Fang + Fusion Flare
2. Blacephalon
Incinerate + Mind Blown
3. Heatran
Fire Spin + Magma Storm
4. Groudon
Mud Shot + Precipice Blades
5. Ho-Oh
Incinerate + Sacred Fire++
6. Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)
Metal Claw + Behemoth Bash

See the full ranked counter list for Zacian (Crowned Sword) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.