Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 5 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 53,000
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 6(5.05) | 6(5.84) | 8(7.17) | 26:54 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 5(4.13) | 5(4.62) | 6(5.64) | 21:15 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 4(3.64) | 5(4.00) | 5(4.87) | 18:25 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 4(3.35) | 4(3.75) | 5(4.53) | 17:14 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 3(2.98) | 4(3.37) | 5(4.22) | 15:29 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 3(2.83) | 4(3.20) | 5(4.02) | 14:45 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 3(2.73) | 4(3.10) | 4(3.88) | 14:16 | 6.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
3 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)2.98
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
4 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)2.98
- Zeraora3.33
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)3.37
- Kyurem (Black)3.42
- Xurkitree3.52
- Thundurus (Therian)3.58
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
5 trainers at level 40
- Raikou4.01
- Enamorus (Incarnate)3.90
- Zapdos4.00
- Electivire4.00
- Rhyperior4.05
- Rampardos4.17
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Yveltal · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.