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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 3 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Yveltal's top six counters needs 1.95 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 2.43 (round up: 3). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 8:58. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 40.
Yveltal · Tier 5
darkflying
Weak to
rockelectricicefairy
Boss CP
45,899
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Yveltal at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 203(2.72)4(3.19)4(3.88)14:406.0
Level 253(2.36)3(2.60)4(3.19)11:596.0
Level 302(1.91)3(2.25)3(2.78)10:216.0
Level 352(1.81)3(2.08)3(2.59)9:366.0
Level 402(1.75)2(1.95)3(2.43)8:586.0
Level 452(1.65)2(1.88)3(2.34)8:386.0
Level 502(1.59)2(1.82)3(2.24)8:246.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)1.75

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)1.75
  • Kyurem (Black)1.92
  • Regieleki1.96
  • Zeraora1.99
  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)2.02
  • Thundurus (Therian)2.04

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Electivire2.29
  • Enamorus (Incarnate)2.29
  • Rhyperior2.34
  • Raikou2.41
  • Gigalith2.42
  • Zapdos2.40

The party these numbers assume

1. Kyurem (White)
Ice Fang + Ice Burn
2. Kyurem (Black)
Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock
3. Regieleki
Thunder Shock + Thunder Cage
4. Zeraora
Spark + Plasma Fists
5. Zacian (Crowned Sword)
Metal Claw + Play Rough
6. Thundurus (Therian)
Volt Switch + Wildbolt Storm

See the full ranked counter list for Yveltal · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.