Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 9,920
- Boss HP
- 15,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.22) | 2(1.30) | 2(1.59) | 6:08 | 5.4 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.02) | 2(1.14) | 2(1.40) | 5:24 | 4.8 |
| Level 30 | 1(0.93) | 2(1.04) | 2(1.26) | 4:54 | 4.3 |
| Level 35 | 1(0.88) | 1(0.99) | 2(1.20) | 4:40 | 3.9 |
| Level 40 | 1(0.85) | 1(0.95) | 2(1.15) | 4:30 | 3.7 |
| Level 45 | 1(0.81) | 1(0.91) | 2(1.11) | 4:19 | 3.3 |
| Level 50 | 1(0.78) | 1(0.89) | 2(1.07) | 4:12 | 3.1 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
1 trainer at level 40
- Kartana0.85
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
1 trainer at level 40
- Kartana0.85
- Shaymin (Sky)0.91
- Zarude0.96
- Rillaboom0.97
- Meowscarada1.01
- Roserade1.01
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Venusaur1.11
- Shaymin (Land)1.11
- Breloom1.10
- Tangrowth1.13
- Torterra1.14
- Celebi1.16
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Wooper · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.