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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 18h 14m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 4 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Wishiwashi (School)'s top six counters needs 2.55 trainers (round up: 3), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 3.08 (round up: 4). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 11:43. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Wishiwashi (School) · Tier 5
water
Weak to
grasselectric
Boss CP
53,012
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Wishiwashi (School) at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 204(3.59)4(3.89)5(4.51)17:536.0
Level 254(3.10)4(3.31)4(3.80)15:136.0
Level 303(2.73)3(2.87)4(3.40)13:116.0
Level 353(2.64)3(2.73)4(3.27)12:346.0
Level 403(2.46)3(2.55)4(3.08)11:436.0
Level 453(2.40)3(2.44)3(2.97)11:136.0
Level 503(2.30)3(2.34)3(2.84)10:476.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Kartana2.46

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Kartana2.46
  • Xurkitree2.54
  • Regieleki2.52
  • Zekrom2.57
  • Thundurus (Therian)2.59
  • Zeraora2.60

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Raikou2.96
  • Roserade2.98
  • Zapdos2.98
  • Electivire3.04
  • Decidueye3.05
  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)3.11

The party these numbers assume

1. Kartana
Razor Leaf + Leaf Blade
2. Xurkitree
Thunder Shock + Discharge
3. Regieleki
Lock-On + Thunder Cage
4. Zekrom
Charge Beam + Fusion Bolt
5. Thundurus (Therian)
Volt Switch + Wildbolt Storm
6. Zeraora
Volt Switch + Plasma Fists

See the full ranked counter list for Wishiwashi (School) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.