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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 3 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Weepinbell's top six counters needs 1.68 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 2.04 (round up: 3). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 7:57. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 30.
Weepinbell · Shadow Tier 5
grasspoison
Weak to
flyingfirepsychicice
Boss CP
23,690
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Weepinbell at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 203(2.32)3(2.47)4(3.01)11:406.0
Level 252(1.92)3(2.13)3(2.55)10:056.0
Level 302(1.75)2(1.85)3(2.26)8:445.9
Level 352(1.65)2(1.77)3(2.16)8:225.9
Level 402(1.56)2(1.68)3(2.04)7:575.7
Level 452(1.51)2(1.63)2(1.98)7:415.6
Level 502(1.48)2(1.57)2(1.90)7:265.6

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)1.56

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)1.56
  • Blacephalon1.66
  • Rayquaza1.66
  • Kyurem (Black)1.71
  • Mewtwo1.72
  • Reshiram1.79

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.98
  • Toucannon2.00
  • Heatran1.99
  • Enamorus (Incarnate)2.01
  • Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)2.02
  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)2.06

The party these numbers assume

1. Kyurem (White)
Ice Fang + Ice Burn
2. Blacephalon
Incinerate + Mind Blown
3. Rayquaza
Air Slash + Dragon Ascent
4. Kyurem (Black)
Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock
5. Mewtwo
Psycho Cut + Psystrike
6. Reshiram
Fire Fang + Fusion Flare

See the full ranked counter list for Weepinbell · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.