Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Weedle's top six counters needs 0.21 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.24 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 0:37. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.

Weedle · Tier 3

bugpoison

Weak to

flyingrockfirepsychic

Boss CP: 3,773
Boss HP: 3,600
Raid timer: 180s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Weedle at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time
Level 20	1(0.23)	1(0.26)	1(0.32)	0:46
Level 25	1(0.22)	1(0.24)	1(0.29)	0:43
Level 30	1(0.19)	1(0.22)	1(0.26)	0:39
Level 35	1(0.18)	1(0.21)	1(0.25)	0:38
Level 40	1(0.18)	1(0.21)	1(0.24)	0:37
Level 45	1(0.18)	1(0.20)	1(0.24)	0:36
Level 50	1(0.18)	1(0.20)	1(0.23)	0:35

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

Blacephalon0.18

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

Blacephalon0.18
Mewtwo0.20
Rayquaza0.21
Hoopa (Unbound)0.22
Reshiram0.22
Salamence0.23

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

Deoxys (Attack)0.23
Galarian Articuno0.24
Hoopa0.24
Espeon0.24
Staraptor0.24
Glimmora0.24

The party these numbers assume

1. Blacephalon

Incinerate + Mind Blown

2. Mewtwo

Psycho Cut + Psystrike

3. Rayquaza

Air Slash + Dragon Ascent

4. Hoopa (Unbound)

Confusion + Psychic

5. Reshiram

Fire Fang + Fusion Flare

6. Salamence

Fire Fang + Fly

See the full ranked counter list for Weedle · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.