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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Walrein's top six counters needs 0.62 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.74 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:49. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.
Walrein · Tier 3
icewater
Weak to
fightingrockgrasselectric
Boss CP
16,335
Boss HP
3,600
Raid timer
180s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Walrein at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 201(0.75)1(0.93)2(1.07)2:445.7
Level 251(0.64)1(0.79)1(0.92)2:195.3
Level 301(0.59)1(0.70)1(0.81)2:024.7
Level 351(0.54)1(0.65)1(0.77)1:544.2
Level 401(0.54)1(0.62)1(0.74)1:493.9
Level 451(0.53)1(0.59)1(0.71)1:443.6
Level 501(0.52)1(0.58)1(0.69)1:423.4

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Keldeo0.54

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Keldeo0.54
  • Terrakion0.63
  • Lucario0.64
  • Kartana0.63
  • Zeraora0.65
  • Regieleki0.66

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Conkeldurr0.71
  • Urshifu (Single Strike)0.71
  • Zarude0.72
  • Raikou0.73
  • Rillaboom0.73
  • Kyurem (Black)0.74

The party these numbers assume

1. Keldeo
Low Kick + Secret Sword
2. Terrakion
Double Kick + Sacred Sword
3. Lucario
Force Palm + Aura Sphere
4. Kartana
Razor Leaf + Sacred Sword
5. Zeraora
Volt Switch + Plasma Fists
6. Regieleki
Thunder Shock + Thunder Cage

See the full ranked counter list for Walrein · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.