Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 3 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 41,424
- Boss HP
- 15,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.73) | 3(2.20) | 3(2.78) | 10:07 | 5.7 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.57) | 2(1.94) | 3(2.45) | 8:57 | 5.1 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.41) | 2(1.75) | 3(2.20) | 8:04 | 4.5 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.31) | 2(1.68) | 3(2.11) | 7:45 | 4.1 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.28) | 2(1.63) | 3(2.02) | 7:30 | 3.9 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.25) | 2(1.57) | 2(1.96) | 7:13 | 3.6 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.20) | 2(1.53) | 2(1.89) | 7:02 | 3.5 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Eternatus1.28
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
2 trainers at level 40
- Eternatus1.28
- Palkia (Origin)1.62
- Kyurem (Black)1.70
- Baxcalibur1.72
- Rayquaza1.73
- Dialga (Origin)1.73
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
3 trainers at level 40
- Dragonite1.89
- Regidrago1.91
- Dialga1.95
- Reshiram1.99
- Enamorus (Incarnate)2.01
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)2.03
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Walking Wake · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.