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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Wailmer's top six counters needs 1.40 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 1.72 (round up: 2). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 6:36. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 20.
Wailmer · Shadow Tier 5
water
Weak to
grasselectric
Boss CP
16,848
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Wailmer at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 202(1.94)2(2.00)3(2.41)9:266.0
Level 252(1.61)2(1.70)3(2.11)8:025.9
Level 302(1.44)2(1.53)2(1.89)7:145.8
Level 352(1.37)2(1.45)2(1.80)6:515.8
Level 402(1.31)2(1.40)2(1.72)6:365.7
Level 452(1.26)2(1.33)2(1.66)6:185.5
Level 502(1.24)2(1.29)2(1.61)6:075.5

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Regieleki1.31

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Regieleki1.31
  • Thundurus (Therian)1.38
  • Kartana1.39
  • Zeraora1.40
  • Xurkitree1.43
  • Zekrom1.48

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (Black)1.66
  • Meowscarada1.68
  • Roserade1.69
  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.67
  • Decidueye1.73
  • Magnezone1.73

The party these numbers assume

1. Regieleki
Lock-On + Thunder Cage
2. Thundurus (Therian)
Volt Switch + Wildbolt Storm
3. Kartana
Razor Leaf + Leaf Blade
4. Zeraora
Volt Switch + Plasma Fists
5. Xurkitree
Thunder Shock + Discharge
6. Zekrom
Charge Beam + Fusion Bolt

See the full ranked counter list for Wailmer · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.