Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 5 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Mega Venusaur's top six counters needs 3.50 trainers (round up: 4), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 4.25 (round up: 5). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 16:17. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.

Mega Venusaur · Primal

grasspoison

Weak to

flyingfirepsychicice

Boss CP: 62,037
Boss HP: 22,500
Raid timer: 300s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Mega Venusaur at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	5(4.75)	6(5.42)	7(6.39)	25:13	6.0
Level 25	4(3.99)	5(4.58)	6(5.41)	21:18	6.0
Level 30	4(3.62)	4(3.98)	5(4.73)	18:30	6.0
Level 35	4(3.46)	4(3.68)	5(4.44)	17:05	6.0
Level 40	4(3.27)	4(3.50)	5(4.25)	16:17	6.0
Level 45	4(3.13)	4(3.36)	5(4.09)	15:37	6.0
Level 50	4(3.02)	4(3.23)	4(3.95)	15:00	6.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

4 trainers at level 40

Kyurem (White)3.27

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

4 trainers at level 40

Kyurem (White)3.27
Rayquaza3.33
Blacephalon3.48
Mewtwo3.57
Kyurem (Black)3.58
Reshiram3.78

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

5 trainers at level 40

Necrozma (Dawn Wings)4.12
Heatran4.15
Enamorus (Incarnate)4.21
Volcarona4.24
Toucannon4.23
Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)4.25

The party these numbers assume

1. Kyurem (White)

Ice Fang + Ice Burn

2. Rayquaza

Air Slash + Dragon Ascent

3. Blacephalon

Incinerate + Mind Blown

4. Mewtwo

Confusion + Psystrike

5. Kyurem (Black)

Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock

6. Reshiram

Fire Fang + Fusion Flare

See the full ranked counter list for Mega Venusaur · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.