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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 21h 18m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 4 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Urshifu (Rapid Strike)'s top six counters needs 3.02 trainers (round up: 4), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 3.42 (round up: 4). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 13:53. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Urshifu (Rapid Strike) · Elite
fightingwater
Weak to
flyinggrasselectricpsychicfairy
Boss CP
52,713
Boss HP
20,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Urshifu (Rapid Strike) at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 205(4.13)5(4.50)6(5.02)20:426.0
Level 254(3.46)4(3.79)5(4.31)17:256.0
Level 304(3.14)4(3.37)4(3.82)15:306.0
Level 354(3.03)4(3.17)4(3.57)14:356.0
Level 403(2.81)4(3.02)4(3.42)13:536.0
Level 453(2.72)3(2.91)4(3.30)13:245.9
Level 503(2.62)3(2.80)4(3.18)12:545.9

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Mewtwo2.81

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Mewtwo2.81
  • Rayquaza2.81
  • Enamorus (Incarnate)2.97
  • Galarian Articuno3.13
  • Tapu Lele3.18
  • Zeraora3.20

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Zekrom3.36
  • Shaymin (Sky)3.35
  • Moltres3.35
  • Yveltal3.36
  • Salamence3.39
  • Lugia3.43

The party these numbers assume

1. Mewtwo
Psycho Cut + Psystrike
2. Rayquaza
Air Slash + Dragon Ascent
3. Enamorus (Incarnate)
Fairy Wind + Fly
4. Galarian Articuno
Psycho Cut + Fly
5. Tapu Lele
Confusion + Nature's Madness
6. Zeraora
Spark + Plasma Fists

See the full ranked counter list for Urshifu (Rapid Strike) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.