Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 17,773
- Boss HP
- 15,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.26) | 2(1.30) | 2(1.64) | 6:00 | 5.6 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.10) | 2(1.14) | 2(1.42) | 5:14 | 5.2 |
| Level 30 | 1(0.96) | 2(1.02) | 2(1.26) | 4:41 | 4.2 |
| Level 35 | 1(0.92) | 1(0.97) | 2(1.21) | 4:29 | 4.0 |
| Level 40 | 1(0.86) | 1(0.93) | 2(1.16) | 4:18 | 3.5 |
| Level 45 | 1(0.85) | 1(0.91) | 2(1.12) | 4:11 | 3.2 |
| Level 50 | 1(0.81) | 1(0.88) | 2(1.08) | 4:03 | 2.9 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
1 trainer at level 40
- Blacephalon0.86
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
1 trainer at level 40
- Blacephalon0.86
- Kyurem (White)0.89
- Rayquaza0.93
- Eternatus0.95
- Kyurem (Black)0.98
- Reshiram0.99
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Chandelure1.13
- Cinderace1.15
- Naganadel1.14
- Heatran1.16
- Pheromosa1.16
- Darmanitan (Standard)1.16
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Treecko · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.