Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 3 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 36,671
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 3(2.29) | 3(2.76) | 4(3.71) | 12:41 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 3(2.13) | 3(2.31) | 4(3.15) | 10:38 | 5.9 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.81) | 3(2.07) | 3(2.70) | 9:32 | 5.9 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.69) | 2(1.96) | 3(2.58) | 9:02 | 5.9 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.64) | 2(1.89) | 3(2.48) | 8:43 | 5.7 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.63) | 2(1.83) | 3(2.39) | 8:24 | 5.6 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.56) | 2(1.76) | 3(2.30) | 8:06 | 5.5 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)1.64
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
2 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)1.64
- Groudon1.81
- Excadrill1.89
- Garchomp1.97
- Landorus (Incarnate)2.03
- Mamoswine2.03
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
3 trainers at level 40
- Donphan2.34
- Blacephalon2.42
- Golem2.39
- Hippowdon2.42
- Flygon2.45
- Sandaconda2.44
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Togedemaru · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.