Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 5 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 34,922
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 6(5.30) | 6(5.14) | 6(5.98) | 23:40 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 5(4.40) | 5(4.47) | 6(5.09) | 20:35 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 4(3.42) | 4(3.88) | 5(4.56) | 17:50 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 4(3.16) | 4(3.66) | 5(4.35) | 16:49 | 5.9 |
| Level 40 | 4(3.06) | 4(3.51) | 5(4.12) | 16:08 | 5.9 |
| Level 45 | 3(2.96) | 4(3.39) | 4(3.99) | 15:37 | 5.9 |
| Level 50 | 3(2.85) | 4(3.29) | 4(3.82) | 15:07 | 5.9 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
4 trainers at level 40
- Blacephalon3.06
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
4 trainers at level 40
- Blacephalon3.06
- Reshiram3.37
- Landorus (Therian)3.42
- Groudon3.68
- Volcarona3.76
- Cinderace3.74
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
5 trainers at level 40
- Delphox4.00
- Charizard4.04
- Emboar4.03
- Garchomp4.07
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)4.06
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)4.12
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Tinkaton · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.