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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 15h 15m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Tentacool's top six counters needs 0.51 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.62 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:30. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.
Tentacool · Tier 3
waterpoison
Weak to
groundelectricpsychic
Boss CP
8,605
Boss HP
3,600
Raid timer
180s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Tentacool at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 201(0.63)1(0.69)1(0.84)2:013.0
Level 251(0.58)1(0.62)1(0.74)1:482.0
Level 301(0.53)1(0.56)1(0.67)1:381.4
Level 351(0.48)1(0.53)1(0.64)1:331.2
Level 401(0.48)1(0.51)1(0.62)1:301.1
Level 451(0.48)1(0.50)1(0.60)1:280.9
Level 501(0.46)1(0.48)1(0.58)1:240.8

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Regieleki0.48

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Regieleki0.48
  • Mewtwo0.50
  • Hoopa (Unbound)0.51
  • Zeraora0.52
  • Thundurus (Therian)0.54
  • Xurkitree0.53

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Hoopa0.60
  • Groudon0.60
  • Regigigas0.61
  • Espeon0.61
  • Eternatus0.61
  • Lunala0.61

The party these numbers assume

1. Regieleki
Thunder Shock + Thunder Cage
2. Mewtwo
Confusion + Psystrike
3. Hoopa (Unbound)
Confusion + Psychic
4. Zeraora
Volt Switch + Plasma Fists
5. Thundurus (Therian)
Volt Switch + Wildbolt Storm
6. Xurkitree
Thunder Shock + Discharge

See the full ranked counter list for Tentacool · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.