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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 22h 7m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 4 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Tangrowth's top six counters needs 3.17 trainers (round up: 4), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 3.97 (round up: 4). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 14:59. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Tangrowth · Shadow Tier 5
grass
Weak to
flyingpoisonbugfireice
Boss CP
38,355
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Tangrowth at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 205(4.44)5(4.94)7(6.66)23:196.0
Level 254(3.83)5(4.30)6(5.32)20:206.0
Level 304(3.37)4(3.75)5(4.36)17:436.0
Level 354(3.17)4(3.43)5(4.13)16:136.0
Level 403(2.94)4(3.17)4(3.97)14:596.0
Level 453(2.86)4(3.08)4(3.82)14:326.0
Level 503(2.75)3(2.95)4(3.70)13:575.9

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)2.94

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)2.94
  • Eternatus3.06
  • Rayquaza3.15
  • Kyurem (Black)3.31
  • Reshiram3.30
  • Blacephalon3.26

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Toucannon3.79
  • Enamorus (Incarnate)3.85
  • Nihilego3.84
  • Naganadel3.88
  • Galarian Articuno3.92
  • Blaziken3.99

The party these numbers assume

1. Kyurem (White)
Ice Fang + Ice Burn
2. Eternatus
Poison Jab + Dynamax Cannon
3. Rayquaza
Air Slash + Dragon Ascent
4. Kyurem (Black)
Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock
5. Reshiram
Fire Fang + Fusion Flare
6. Blacephalon
Incinerate + Mind Blown

See the full ranked counter list for Tangrowth · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.