Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Stufful's top six counters needs 0.34 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.40 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:00. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.

Stufful · Tier 3

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Weak to

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Boss CP: 9,502
Boss HP: 3,600
Raid timer: 180s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Stufful at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	1(0.43)	1(0.46)	1(0.54)	1:21	2.3
Level 25	1(0.38)	1(0.41)	1(0.48)	1:12	1.6
Level 30	1(0.33)	1(0.37)	1(0.44)	1:04	1.0
Level 35	1(0.32)	1(0.35)	1(0.41)	1:02	0.9
Level 40	1(0.33)	1(0.34)	1(0.40)	1:00	0.8
Level 45	1(0.31)	1(0.33)	1(0.39)	0:58	0.6
Level 50	1(0.29)	1(0.31)	1(0.37)	0:55	0.5

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

Keldeo0.33

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

Keldeo0.33
Mewtwo0.33
Rayquaza0.33
Enamorus (Incarnate)0.35
Lucario0.35
Hoopa (Unbound)0.36

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

Enamorus (Therian)0.38
Zacian (Crowned Sword)0.38
Necrozma (Dusk Mane)0.39
Toucannon0.39
Yveltal0.40
Kartana0.39

The party these numbers assume

1. Keldeo

Low Kick + Secret Sword

2. Mewtwo

Confusion + Psystrike

3. Rayquaza

Air Slash + Dragon Ascent

4. Enamorus (Incarnate)

Fairy Wind + Fly

5. Lucario

Force Palm + Aura Sphere

6. Hoopa (Unbound)

Confusion + Psychic

See the full ranked counter list for Stufful · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.