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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 21h 35m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Staraptor's top six counters needs 1.51 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 1.89 (round up: 2). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 6:56. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 25.
Staraptor · Tier 5
normalflying
Weak to
rockelectricice
Boss CP
37,967
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Staraptor at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 203(2.02)3(2.34)3(2.91)10:476.0
Level 252(1.66)2(1.89)3(2.39)8:426.0
Level 302(1.47)2(1.67)3(2.08)7:426.0
Level 352(1.42)2(1.60)2(1.99)7:206.0
Level 402(1.33)2(1.51)2(1.89)6:566.0
Level 452(1.30)2(1.45)2(1.82)6:396.0
Level 502(1.22)2(1.38)2(1.75)6:216.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)1.33

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)1.33
  • Regieleki1.52
  • Zeraora1.54
  • Thundurus (Therian)1.55
  • Kyurem (Black)1.54
  • Xurkitree1.57

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.83
  • Electivire1.82
  • Rhyperior1.84
  • Gigalith1.86
  • Tyrantrum1.87
  • Zapdos1.89

The party these numbers assume

1. Kyurem (White)
Ice Fang + Ice Burn
2. Regieleki
Thunder Shock + Thunder Cage
3. Zeraora
Volt Switch + Plasma Fists
4. Thundurus (Therian)
Volt Switch + Wildbolt Storm
5. Kyurem (Black)
Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock
6. Xurkitree
Thunder Shock + Discharge

See the full ranked counter list for Staraptor · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.