Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 3 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 20,069
- Boss HP
- 15,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 3(2.81) | 4(3.56) | 5(4.01) | 16:48 | 5.8 |
| Level 25 | 3(2.40) | 3(2.97) | 4(3.45) | 14:02 | 5.5 |
| Level 30 | 3(2.19) | 3(2.69) | 4(3.03) | 12:41 | 5.3 |
| Level 35 | 3(2.13) | 3(2.52) | 3(2.86) | 11:55 | 5.1 |
| Level 40 | 3(2.08) | 3(2.45) | 3(2.77) | 11:34 | 5.0 |
| Level 45 | 3(2.04) | 3(2.37) | 3(2.68) | 11:11 | 4.8 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.89) | 3(2.30) | 3(2.60) | 10:51 | 4.6 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
3 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)2.08
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
3 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)2.08
- Darkrai2.39
- Kyurem (Black)2.52
- Blacephalon2.55
- Hydreigon2.58
- Absol2.58
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
3 trainers at level 40
- Dragapult2.70
- Hisuian Zoroark2.72
- Zoroark2.72
- Hoopa (Unbound)2.74
- Chandelure2.76
- Volcarona2.77
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Spoink · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.