Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Spidops's top six counters needs 1.67 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 1.96 (round up: 2). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 7:40. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 30.

Spidops · Tier 5

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Weak to

flyingrockfire

Boss CP: 25,374
Boss HP: 15,000
Raid timer: 300s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Spidops at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	3(2.11)	3(2.32)	3(2.74)	10:41	5.9
Level 25	2(1.83)	3(2.03)	3(2.40)	9:20	5.4
Level 30	2(1.62)	2(1.83)	3(2.14)	8:24	4.8
Level 35	2(1.53)	2(1.74)	3(2.05)	8:00	4.6
Level 40	2(1.45)	2(1.67)	2(1.96)	7:40	4.4
Level 45	2(1.39)	2(1.61)	2(1.89)	7:23	4.3
Level 50	2(1.34)	2(1.55)	2(1.83)	7:07	4.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

Blacephalon1.45

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

Blacephalon1.45
Rayquaza1.54
Reshiram1.64
Salamence1.75
Moltres1.78
Enamorus (Incarnate)1.82

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

2 trainers at level 40

Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.91
Staraptor1.91
Blaziken1.92
Volcarona1.92
Galarian Articuno1.94
Darmanitan (Standard)1.96

The party these numbers assume

1. Blacephalon

Incinerate + Mind Blown

2. Rayquaza

Air Slash + Dragon Ascent

3. Reshiram

Fire Fang + Fusion Flare

4. Salamence

Fire Fang + Fly

5. Moltres

Fire Spin + Fly

6. Enamorus (Incarnate)

Fairy Wind + Fly

See the full ranked counter list for Spidops · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.