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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 3 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Simisage's top six counters needs 2.24 trainers (round up: 3), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 2.78 (round up: 3). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 10:18. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Simisage · Elite
grass
Weak to
flyingpoisonbugfireice
Boss CP
38,022
Boss HP
20,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Simisage at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 203(2.91)4(3.19)5(4.36)14:416.0
Level 253(2.57)3(2.80)4(3.67)12:546.0
Level 303(2.37)3(2.48)4(3.05)11:256.0
Level 353(2.22)3(2.37)3(2.91)10:546.0
Level 403(2.04)3(2.24)3(2.78)10:186.0
Level 452(1.99)3(2.15)3(2.67)9:556.0
Level 502(1.93)3(2.09)3(2.58)9:375.9

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)2.04

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)2.04
  • Rayquaza2.13
  • Eternatus2.22
  • Kyurem (Black)2.32
  • Reshiram2.32
  • Salamence2.40

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Volcarona2.66
  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)2.71
  • Naganadel2.74
  • Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)2.76
  • Blaziken2.76
  • Ho-Oh2.75

The party these numbers assume

1. Kyurem (White)
Ice Fang + Ice Burn
2. Rayquaza
Air Slash + Dragon Ascent
3. Eternatus
Poison Jab + Dynamax Cannon
4. Kyurem (Black)
Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock
5. Reshiram
Fire Fang + Fusion Flare
6. Salamence
Fire Fang + Fly

See the full ranked counter list for Simisage · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.