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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Simisage's top six counters needs 0.45 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.55 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:19. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.
Simisage · Tier 3
grass
Weak to
flyingpoisonbugfireice
Boss CP
16,131
Boss HP
3,600
Raid timer
180s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Simisage at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 201(0.57)1(0.64)1(0.81)1:533.7
Level 251(0.51)1(0.57)1(0.68)1:413.0
Level 301(0.46)1(0.50)1(0.61)1:272.1
Level 351(0.44)1(0.47)1(0.59)1:221.7
Level 401(0.42)1(0.45)1(0.55)1:191.6
Level 451(0.42)1(0.44)1(0.54)1:171.4
Level 501(0.39)1(0.42)1(0.52)1:141.2

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)0.42

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)0.42
  • Rayquaza0.44
  • Blacephalon0.44
  • Eternatus0.47
  • Kyurem (Black)0.48
  • Reshiram0.48

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Pheromosa0.52
  • Heatran0.54
  • Naganadel0.55
  • Blaziken0.55
  • Cinderace0.55
  • Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)0.56

The party these numbers assume

1. Kyurem (White)
Ice Fang + Ice Burn
2. Rayquaza
Air Slash + Dragon Ascent
3. Blacephalon
Incinerate + Mind Blown
4. Eternatus
Poison Jab + Dynamax Cannon
5. Kyurem (Black)
Dragon Tail + Freeze Shock
6. Reshiram
Fire Fang + Fusion Flare

See the full ranked counter list for Simisage · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.