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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 23h 21m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 3 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Silvally (Water)'s top six counters needs 2.00 trainers (round up: 2), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 2.52 (round up: 3). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 9:11. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party. A duo works from level 40.
Silvally (Water) · Tier 5
water
Weak to
grasselectric
Boss CP
38,072
Boss HP
15,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Silvally (Water) at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 203(2.86)3(2.94)4(3.60)13:316.0
Level 253(2.33)3(2.47)4(3.11)11:216.0
Level 303(2.06)3(2.21)3(2.75)10:095.9
Level 352(1.93)3(2.10)3(2.63)9:395.9
Level 402(1.86)2(2.00)3(2.52)9:115.7
Level 452(1.79)2(1.93)3(2.44)8:525.6
Level 502(1.71)2(1.86)3(2.35)8:345.4

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Regieleki1.86

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

2 trainers at level 40

  • Regieleki1.86
  • Thundurus (Therian)1.98
  • Zeraora2.01
  • Xurkitree2.02
  • Kartana2.04
  • Zekrom2.07

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Raikou2.41
  • Kyurem (Black)2.46
  • Magnezone2.48
  • Roserade2.49
  • Meowscarada2.52
  • Zapdos2.53

The party these numbers assume

1. Regieleki
Lock-On + Thunder Cage
2. Thundurus (Therian)
Volt Switch + Wildbolt Storm
3. Zeraora
Volt Switch + Plasma Fists
4. Xurkitree
Thunder Shock + Discharge
5. Kartana
Razor Leaf + Leaf Blade
6. Zekrom
Charge Beam + Fusion Bolt

See the full ranked counter list for Silvally (Water) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.