Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 5 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 43,962
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 5(4.54) | 5(4.95) | 6(6.00) | 22:47 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 4(3.92) | 5(4.32) | 6(5.21) | 19:54 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 4(3.40) | 4(3.88) | 5(4.63) | 17:50 | 5.9 |
| Level 35 | 4(3.26) | 4(3.65) | 5(4.40) | 16:47 | 5.9 |
| Level 40 | 4(3.14) | 4(3.46) | 5(4.20) | 15:56 | 5.8 |
| Level 45 | 4(3.05) | 4(3.34) | 5(4.02) | 15:22 | 5.8 |
| Level 50 | 3(2.97) | 4(3.24) | 4(3.87) | 14:54 | 5.7 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
4 trainers at level 40
- Mewtwo3.14
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
4 trainers at level 40
- Mewtwo3.14
- Landorus (Therian)3.40
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)3.50
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)3.52
- Hoopa (Unbound)3.58
- Groudon3.62
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
5 trainers at level 40
- Alakazam4.03
- Excadrill4.05
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)4.08
- Metagross4.11
- Espeon4.19
- Kyurem (Black)4.19
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Silvally (Poison) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.