Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 3 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 38,072
- Boss HP
- 15,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 3(2.23) | 3(2.99) | 4(3.40) | 13:45 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.99) | 3(2.55) | 3(2.98) | 11:44 | 5.9 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.74) | 3(2.34) | 3(2.65) | 10:45 | 5.7 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.67) | 3(2.19) | 3(2.54) | 10:03 | 5.5 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.62) | 3(2.11) | 3(2.44) | 9:41 | 5.4 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.57) | 3(2.04) | 3(2.36) | 9:24 | 5.3 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.54) | 2(1.99) | 3(2.27) | 9:08 | 5.1 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.62
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
3 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.62
- Blacephalon2.07
- Darkrai2.20
- Gengar2.24
- Kyurem (Black)2.24
- Lunala2.25
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
3 trainers at level 40
- Gholdengo2.36
- Hisuian Zoroark2.38
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)2.44
- Giratina (Origin)2.43
- Absol2.43
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)2.44
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Silvally (Ghost) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.