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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 15h 45m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 5 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Silvally (Fairy)'s top six counters needs 3.07 trainers (round up: 4), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 4.25 (round up: 5). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 14:07. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Silvally (Fairy) · Elite
fairy
Weak to
poisonsteel
Boss CP
43,962
Boss HP
20,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Silvally (Fairy) at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 204(3.55)5(4.32)6(5.89)19:525.9
Level 254(3.02)4(3.72)6(5.25)17:075.8
Level 303(2.81)4(3.39)5(4.61)15:375.6
Level 353(2.59)4(3.17)5(4.42)14:365.4
Level 403(2.51)4(3.07)5(4.25)14:075.3
Level 453(2.45)3(2.97)5(4.11)13:415.2
Level 503(2.30)3(2.87)4(3.92)13:135.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)2.51

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)2.51
  • Necrozma (Dusk Mane)2.55
  • Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)2.61
  • Eternatus3.47
  • Metagross3.60
  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)3.66

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

5 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (White)3.98
  • Roserade4.21
  • Genesect4.22
  • Genesect (Burn)4.22
  • Genesect (Chill)4.22
  • Genesect (Douse)4.22

The party these numbers assume

1. Zacian (Crowned Sword)
Metal Claw + Behemoth Blade
2. Necrozma (Dusk Mane)
Metal Claw + Sunsteel Strike
3. Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)
Metal Claw + Behemoth Bash
4. Eternatus
Poison Jab + Sludge Bomb
5. Metagross
Bullet Punch + Meteor Mash
6. Necrozma (Dawn Wings)
Metal Claw + Moongeist Beam

See the full ranked counter list for Silvally (Fairy) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.