Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 13 to be safe — 8 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 7,945
- Boss HP
- 15,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 7(6.51) | 10(9.32) | 13(12.71) | 44:00 | 2.4 |
| Level 25 | 7(6.04) | 9(8.89) | 13(12.70) | 42:01 | 1.7 |
| Level 30 | 6(5.73) | 9(8.14) | 13(12.70) | 38:26 | 1.6 |
| Level 35 | 6(5.53) | 8(7.97) | 13(12.70) | 37:40 | 1.4 |
| Level 40 | 5(4.70) | 8(7.67) | 13(12.70) | 36:13 | 1.2 |
| Level 45 | 5(4.64) | 8(7.56) | 13(12.55) | 35:42 | 1.1 |
| Level 50 | 5(4.51) | 8(7.42) | 13(12.49) | 35:04 | 1.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
5 trainers at level 40
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)4.70
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
8 trainers at level 40
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)4.70
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)4.75
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)4.84
- Vaporeon9.97
- Zekrom10.76
- Latias10.98
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
13 trainers at level 40
- Spidops12.70
- Doublade12.70
- Lickilicky12.70
- Meganium12.70
- Haunter12.70
- Electabuzz12.70
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Shuckle · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.