Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 13 to be safe — 7 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 9,174
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 7(6.21) | 9(8.20) | 14(13.04) | 37:45 | 2.1 |
| Level 25 | 6(5.75) | 8(7.30) | 14(13.03) | 33:34 | 1.3 |
| Level 30 | 5(4.86) | 7(6.75) | 13(12.97) | 31:04 | 1.2 |
| Level 35 | 5(4.74) | 7(6.45) | 13(12.95) | 29:40 | 1.0 |
| Level 40 | 5(4.63) | 7(6.28) | 13(12.86) | 28:55 | 0.9 |
| Level 45 | 5(4.55) | 7(6.01) | 13(12.52) | 27:39 | 0.9 |
| Level 50 | 5(4.46) | 6(5.77) | 13(12.21) | 26:33 | 0.8 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
5 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)4.63
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
7 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)4.63
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)4.71
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)5.04
- Metagross6.44
- Lucario8.33
- Aggron8.55
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
13 trainers at level 40
- Hydreigon11.87
- Espeon12.45
- Magneton12.60
- Kingler13.04
- Poliwrath13.04
- Mew13.04
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Shuckle · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.