Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 14,369
- Boss HP
- 15,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.04) | 2(1.18) | 2(1.48) | 5:26 | 5.5 |
| Level 25 | 1(0.93) | 2(1.03) | 2(1.28) | 4:44 | 4.6 |
| Level 30 | 1(0.82) | 1(0.93) | 2(1.16) | 4:15 | 3.5 |
| Level 35 | 1(0.77) | 1(0.89) | 2(1.11) | 4:05 | 3.0 |
| Level 40 | 1(0.75) | 1(0.86) | 2(1.06) | 3:57 | 2.8 |
| Level 45 | 1(0.71) | 1(0.82) | 2(1.03) | 3:47 | 2.3 |
| Level 50 | 1(0.70) | 1(0.80) | 1(0.99) | 3:40 | 2.1 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
1 trainer at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)0.75
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
1 trainer at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)0.75
- Groudon0.84
- Eternatus0.86
- Excadrill0.88
- Mamoswine0.90
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)0.91
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Rhydon1.01
- Golurk1.01
- Blacephalon1.03
- Kyurem (White)1.04
- Keldeo1.03
- Mudsdale1.06
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Shinx · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.