Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 3 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 13,265
- Boss HP
- 15,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 3(2.87) | 4(3.38) | 5(4.00) | 15:58 | 5.7 |
| Level 25 | 3(2.52) | 3(2.99) | 4(3.51) | 14:08 | 5.0 |
| Level 30 | 3(2.29) | 3(2.71) | 4(3.18) | 12:49 | 4.1 |
| Level 35 | 3(2.18) | 3(2.57) | 4(3.03) | 12:10 | 3.9 |
| Level 40 | 3(2.09) | 3(2.50) | 3(2.91) | 11:48 | 3.6 |
| Level 45 | 3(2.03) | 3(2.40) | 3(2.82) | 11:20 | 3.4 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.96) | 3(2.32) | 3(2.74) | 10:59 | 3.1 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
3 trainers at level 40
- Blacephalon2.09
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
3 trainers at level 40
- Blacephalon2.09
- Rayquaza2.31
- Reshiram2.53
- Salamence2.64
- Moltres2.70
- Enamorus (Incarnate)2.73
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
3 trainers at level 40
- Darmanitan (Standard)2.86
- Galarian Articuno2.85
- Staraptor2.86
- Glimmora2.88
- Eternatus2.89
- Heatran2.90
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Shelmet · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.