Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 10,113
- Boss HP
- 4,000
- Raid timer
- 180s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.35) | 2(1.40) | 2(1.69) | 4:05 | 5.7 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.17) | 2(1.21) | 2(1.48) | 3:32 | 5.2 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.03) | 2(1.07) | 2(1.32) | 3:08 | 4.5 |
| Level 35 | 1(0.96) | 2(1.02) | 2(1.26) | 2:58 | 4.0 |
| Level 40 | 1(0.89) | 1(0.97) | 2(1.20) | 2:50 | 3.6 |
| Level 45 | 1(0.86) | 1(0.93) | 2(1.16) | 2:44 | 3.3 |
| Level 50 | 1(0.83) | 1(0.91) | 2(1.12) | 2:39 | 2.9 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
1 trainer at level 40
- Regieleki0.89
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
1 trainer at level 40
- Regieleki0.89
- Thundurus (Therian)0.98
- Kartana0.97
- Zeraora0.97
- Xurkitree0.97
- Zekrom1.03
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Meowscarada1.17
- Raikou1.17
- Roserade1.17
- Kyurem (Black)1.18
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.19
- Magnezone1.19
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Shellder · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.