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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 3 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Shellder's top six counters needs 2.35 trainers (round up: 3), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 2.91 (round up: 3). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 10:48. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Shellder · Elite
water
Weak to
grasselectric
Boss CP
22,614
Boss HP
20,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Shellder at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 204(3.32)4(3.38)5(4.13)15:336.0
Level 253(2.73)3(2.88)4(3.54)13:146.0
Level 303(2.44)3(2.57)4(3.18)11:515.9
Level 353(2.31)3(2.45)4(3.03)11:185.8
Level 403(2.21)3(2.35)3(2.91)10:485.8
Level 453(2.15)3(2.27)3(2.81)10:275.7
Level 503(2.03)3(2.17)3(2.69)9:595.6

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Regieleki2.21

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Regieleki2.21
  • Kartana2.34
  • Zeraora2.35
  • Xurkitree2.37
  • Thundurus (Therian)2.37
  • Zekrom2.44

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Kyurem (Black)2.80
  • Roserade2.81
  • Meowscarada2.83
  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)2.86
  • Magnezone2.91
  • Breloom2.93

The party these numbers assume

1. Regieleki
Lock-On + Thunder Cage
2. Kartana
Razor Leaf + Leaf Blade
3. Zeraora
Volt Switch + Plasma Fists
4. Xurkitree
Thunder Shock + Discharge
5. Thundurus (Therian)
Volt Switch + Wildbolt Storm
6. Zekrom
Charge Beam + Fusion Bolt

See the full ranked counter list for Shellder · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.

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