Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 4 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 52,512
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 3(2.57) | 4(3.65) | 5(4.76) | 16:48 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.99) | 3(2.98) | 4(3.94) | 13:42 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.77) | 3(2.61) | 4(3.46) | 12:00 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.66) | 3(2.48) | 4(3.22) | 11:25 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.61) | 3(2.33) | 4(3.04) | 10:43 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.56) | 3(2.25) | 3(2.92) | 10:21 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.50) | 3(2.15) | 3(2.79) | 9:54 | 6.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)1.61
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
3 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)1.61
- Kyurem (Black)2.07
- Baxcalibur2.29
- Rayquaza2.60
- Eternatus2.68
- Cetitan2.72
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
4 trainers at level 40
- Avalugg2.92
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)2.93
- Articuno2.94
- Vanilluxe2.99
- Moltres3.02
- Genesect (Chill)3.04
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Shaymin (Sky) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.