Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 5 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 47,729
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 5(4.50) | 5(4.96) | 7(6.27) | 22:50 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 4(3.85) | 5(4.22) | 6(5.30) | 19:26 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 4(3.46) | 4(3.75) | 5(4.59) | 17:14 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 4(3.35) | 4(3.58) | 5(4.39) | 16:30 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 4(3.13) | 4(3.36) | 5(4.17) | 15:29 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 4(3.02) | 4(3.20) | 5(4.03) | 14:44 | 5.9 |
| Level 50 | 3(2.89) | 4(3.09) | 4(3.90) | 14:13 | 5.8 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
4 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)3.13
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
4 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)3.13
- Rayquaza3.21
- Eternatus3.24
- Kyurem (Black)3.49
- Blacephalon3.56
- Reshiram3.56
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
5 trainers at level 40
- Volcarona4.05
- Naganadel4.08
- Galarian Articuno4.06
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)4.06
- Cinderace4.15
- Ho-Oh4.16
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Shaymin (Land) · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.