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Raid Hour · YveltalNext · 20h 11m

Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 4 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Mega Scovillain's top six counters needs 2.80 trainers (round up: 3), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 3.50 (round up: 4). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 13:00. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Mega Scovillain · Primal
grassfire
Weak to
flyingpoisonrock
Boss CP
59,370
Boss HP
22,500
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Mega Scovillain at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 204(3.67)5(4.22)6(5.71)19:366.0
Level 253(2.95)4(3.52)5(4.66)16:226.0
Level 303(2.66)4(3.05)5(4.02)14:106.0
Level 353(2.56)3(2.90)4(3.71)13:306.0
Level 403(2.43)3(2.80)4(3.50)13:006.0
Level 453(2.34)3(2.69)4(3.35)12:316.0
Level 503(2.24)3(2.58)4(3.18)12:005.9

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Rayquaza2.43

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Rayquaza2.43
  • Eternatus2.48
  • Moltres2.91
  • Yveltal2.90
  • Salamence3.00
  • Galarian Articuno3.04

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

4 trainers at level 40

  • Enamorus (Therian)3.41
  • Toucannon3.38
  • Hisuian Braviary3.42
  • Kyurem (Black)3.45
  • Tornadus (Therian)3.47
  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)3.48

The party these numbers assume

1. Rayquaza
Air Slash + Dragon Ascent
2. Eternatus
Poison Jab + Dynamax Cannon
3. Moltres
Wing Attack + Fly
4. Yveltal
Gust + Oblivion Wing
5. Salamence
Dragon Tail + Fly
6. Galarian Articuno
Psycho Cut + Fly

See the full ranked counter list for Mega Scovillain · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.