Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 5 to be safe — 5 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 70,536
- Boss HP
- 25,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 6(5.96) | 7(6.19) | 8(7.60) | 28:29 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 6(5.11) | 6(5.38) | 7(6.36) | 24:46 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 5(4.41) | 5(4.63) | 6(5.52) | 21:20 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 5(4.02) | 5(4.38) | 6(5.24) | 20:09 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 4(3.78) | 5(4.16) | 5(4.94) | 19:08 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 4(3.67) | 5(4.03) | 5(4.80) | 18:34 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 4(3.50) | 4(3.85) | 5(4.61) | 17:44 | 6.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
4 trainers at level 40
- Blacephalon3.78
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
5 trainers at level 40
- Blacephalon3.78
- Rayquaza3.99
- Mewtwo4.09
- Reshiram4.27
- Salamence4.37
- Moltres4.44
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
5 trainers at level 40
- Enamorus (Incarnate)4.83
- Chandelure4.87
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)4.88
- Eternatus4.92
- Lunala4.89
- Lugia4.92
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Mega Scolipede · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.