Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 16,500
- Boss HP
- 15,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 1(0.97) | 2(1.10) | 2(1.27) | 5:05 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 1(0.85) | 1(0.94) | 2(1.11) | 4:18 | 5.8 |
| Level 30 | 1(0.75) | 1(0.82) | 1(0.99) | 3:47 | 5.2 |
| Level 35 | 1(0.72) | 1(0.79) | 1(0.95) | 3:37 | 4.9 |
| Level 40 | 1(0.69) | 1(0.76) | 1(0.91) | 3:29 | 4.6 |
| Level 45 | 1(0.67) | 1(0.73) | 1(0.88) | 3:22 | 4.3 |
| Level 50 | 1(0.65) | 1(0.71) | 1(0.85) | 3:15 | 4.1 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
1 trainer at level 40
- Kyurem (White)0.69
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
1 trainer at level 40
- Kyurem (White)0.69
- Keldeo0.69
- Kyurem (Black)0.77
- Kartana0.80
- Terrakion0.80
- Lucario0.80
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
1 trainer at level 40
- Hisuian Decidueye0.89
- Enamorus (Incarnate)0.89
- Tapu Bulu0.90
- Conkeldurr0.90
- Zarude0.91
- Breloom0.91
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Sandile · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.