Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 17,871
- Boss HP
- 4,000
- Raid timer
- 180s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 3(2.10) | 3(2.39) | 3(2.81) | 7:00 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.78) | 3(2.02) | 3(2.43) | 5:55 | 5.8 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.57) | 2(1.81) | 3(2.15) | 5:18 | 5.4 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.54) | 2(1.69) | 3(2.04) | 4:56 | 5.2 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.47) | 2(1.63) | 2(1.95) | 4:46 | 5.1 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.39) | 2(1.54) | 2(1.91) | 4:30 | 4.8 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.35) | 2(1.50) | 2(1.85) | 4:24 | 4.6 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)1.47
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
2 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)1.47
- Kyurem (Black)1.51
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)1.50
- Kartana1.76
- Darkrai1.76
- Inteleon1.78
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Hydreigon1.91
- Rillaboom1.91
- Necrozma (Dusk Mane)1.93
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)1.93
- Lunala1.93
- Absol1.95
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Runerigus · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.