Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 3 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 44,686
- Boss HP
- 15,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 3(2.48) | 3(2.86) | 4(3.41) | 13:09 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 3(2.14) | 3(2.38) | 3(2.84) | 10:58 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.89) | 3(2.08) | 3(2.43) | 9:36 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.80) | 2(1.95) | 3(2.32) | 8:59 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.73) | 2(1.84) | 3(2.21) | 8:27 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.64) | 2(1.76) | 3(2.12) | 8:05 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.59) | 2(1.68) | 3(2.05) | 7:43 | 6.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)1.73
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
2 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)1.73
- Rayquaza1.76
- Mewtwo1.82
- Blacephalon1.85
- Reshiram1.93
- Kyurem (Black)1.95
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
3 trainers at level 40
- Heatran2.14
- Enamorus (Incarnate)2.18
- Eternatus2.17
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)2.16
- Toucannon2.23
- Volcarona2.24
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Roserade · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.