Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 23,181
- Boss HP
- 4,000
- Raid timer
- 180s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.46) | 2(1.45) | 2(1.70) | 4:14 | 5.9 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.21) | 2(1.23) | 2(1.44) | 3:36 | 5.9 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.03) | 2(1.08) | 2(1.25) | 3:09 | 5.7 |
| Level 35 | 1(1.00) | 2(1.04) | 2(1.19) | 3:02 | 5.6 |
| Level 40 | 1(0.93) | 1(0.97) | 2(1.12) | 2:51 | 5.3 |
| Level 45 | 1(0.90) | 1(0.92) | 2(1.07) | 2:42 | 5.0 |
| Level 50 | 1(0.88) | 1(0.90) | 2(1.02) | 2:38 | 4.8 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
1 trainer at level 40
- Kartana0.93
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
1 trainer at level 40
- Kartana0.93
- Shaymin (Sky)0.95
- Kyogre0.98
- Zarude0.99
- Inteleon0.98
- Rillaboom1.00
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Greninja1.08
- Kingler1.09
- Chesnaught1.11
- Swampert1.13
- Samurott1.11
- Shaymin (Land)1.14
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Rhyperior · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.