Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 3 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 25,159
- Boss HP
- 15,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 4(3.44) | 4(3.76) | 5(4.14) | 17:45 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 3(3.00) | 4(3.34) | 4(3.67) | 15:47 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 3(2.58) | 3(2.92) | 4(3.33) | 13:46 | 5.9 |
| Level 35 | 3(2.48) | 3(2.70) | 4(3.19) | 12:45 | 5.9 |
| Level 40 | 3(2.42) | 3(2.59) | 3(2.97) | 12:15 | 5.8 |
| Level 45 | 3(2.35) | 3(2.52) | 3(2.88) | 11:55 | 5.8 |
| Level 50 | 3(2.28) | 3(2.45) | 3(2.78) | 11:33 | 5.7 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
3 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)2.42
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
3 trainers at level 40
- Landorus (Therian)2.42
- Inteleon2.51
- Groudon2.58
- Kyogre2.65
- Rampardos2.66
- Greninja2.73
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
3 trainers at level 40
- Garchomp2.85
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)2.90
- Landorus (Incarnate)2.90
- Gigalith2.96
- Swampert2.95
- Terrakion2.96
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Quilava · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.