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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 1 to be safe — 1 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Popplio's top six counters needs 0.38 trainers (round up: 1), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 0.48 (round up: 1). The raid timer is 180 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 1:07. A prepared solo becomes possible at level 20. A duo works from level 20.
Popplio · Tier 3
water
Weak to
grasselectric
Boss CP
8,798
Boss HP
3,600
Raid timer
180s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Popplio at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 201(0.49)1(0.52)1(0.65)1:312.3
Level 251(0.42)1(0.46)1(0.57)1:201.4
Level 301(0.41)1(0.42)1(0.52)1:141.1
Level 351(0.35)1(0.40)1(0.49)1:100.9
Level 401(0.35)1(0.38)1(0.48)1:070.7
Level 451(0.35)1(0.37)1(0.46)1:050.6
Level 501(0.34)1(0.36)1(0.45)1:040.5

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Regieleki0.35

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Regieleki0.35
  • Thundurus (Therian)0.37
  • Kartana0.38
  • Xurkitree0.39
  • Zeraora0.40
  • Shaymin (Sky)0.41

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

1 trainer at level 40

  • Roserade0.46
  • Necrozma (Dawn Wings)0.46
  • Meowscarada0.47
  • Raikou0.47
  • Deoxys0.47
  • Breloom0.48

The party these numbers assume

1. Regieleki
Lock-On + Thunder Cage
2. Thundurus (Therian)
Volt Switch + Wildbolt Storm
3. Kartana
Razor Leaf + Leaf Blade
4. Xurkitree
Thunder Shock + Discharge
5. Zeraora
Volt Switch + Plasma Fists
6. Shaymin (Sky)
Magical Leaf + Grass Knot

See the full ranked counter list for Popplio · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.