Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

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Invite 5 to be safe — 4 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Politoed's top six counters needs 3.50 trainers (round up: 4), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 4.16 (round up: 5). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 16:31. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.

Politoed · Shadow Tier 5

water

Weak to

grasselectric

Boss CP: 32,240
Boss HP: 15,000
Raid timer: 300s
Party used: 6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Politoed at each attacker level
Attacker level	Six of the best counter	A prepared party	A mixed local group	Prepared solo time	Faints per timer
Level 20	6(5.10)	6(5.57)	7(6.25)	26:20	6.0
Level 25	5(4.09)	5(4.57)	6(5.39)	21:34	6.0
Level 30	4(3.62)	4(3.88)	5(4.60)	18:19	6.0
Level 35	4(3.50)	4(3.64)	5(4.40)	17:13	6.0
Level 40	4(3.42)	4(3.50)	5(4.16)	16:31	6.0
Level 45	4(3.24)	4(3.32)	4(3.98)	15:40	6.0
Level 50	4(3.15)	4(3.19)	4(3.85)	15:04	6.0

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

4 trainers at level 40

Kartana3.42

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

4 trainers at level 40

Kartana3.42
Zeraora3.43
Xurkitree3.48
Zekrom3.52
Regieleki3.53
Thundurus (Therian)3.60

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

5 trainers at level 40

Raikou4.03
Electivire4.04
Roserade4.07
Tapu Bulu4.08
Sceptile4.14
Decidueye4.16

The party these numbers assume

1. Kartana

Razor Leaf + Leaf Blade

2. Zeraora

Volt Switch + Plasma Fists

3. Xurkitree

Thunder Shock + Discharge

4. Zekrom

Charge Beam + Fusion Bolt

5. Regieleki

Thunder Shock + Thunder Cage

6. Thundurus (Therian)

Volt Switch + Wildbolt Storm

See the full ranked counter list for Politoed · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.