Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 11,489
- Boss HP
- 15,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.78) | 2(1.95) | 3(2.43) | 9:11 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.55) | 2(1.69) | 3(2.13) | 7:58 | 5.8 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.40) | 2(1.53) | 2(1.93) | 7:14 | 5.3 |
| Level 35 | 2(1.34) | 2(1.46) | 2(1.83) | 6:54 | 4.8 |
| Level 40 | 2(1.28) | 2(1.39) | 2(1.77) | 6:34 | 4.5 |
| Level 45 | 2(1.24) | 2(1.35) | 2(1.70) | 6:24 | 4.2 |
| Level 50 | 2(1.21) | 2(1.30) | 2(1.65) | 6:08 | 4.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
2 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)1.28
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
2 trainers at level 40
- Kyurem (White)1.28
- Regieleki1.34
- Kyurem (Black)1.38
- Thundurus (Therian)1.44
- Zeraora1.44
- Xurkitree1.46
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Electivire1.69
- Raikou1.70
- Galarian Darmanitan (Standard)1.72
- Zacian (Crowned Sword)1.73
- Gigalith1.74
- Rhyperior1.78
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Pidgey · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.