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Group size estimator

How many trainers do I need to invite?

The Estimator is already "trainers of this attacker needed to finish inside the timer", so this page does not invent a number: it reads it off the boss's own ranked counter list for three realistic parties and re-simulates each of them at every level from 20 to 50.

Invite 3 to be safe — 3 if everyone is prepared

At level 40, a party of Alolan Persian's top six counters needs 2.37 trainers (round up: 3), and a mixed lobby of ranks 13-24 needs 2.99 (round up: 3). The raid timer is 300 seconds and one prepared trainer alone would take 10:55. No level in this range makes it soloable with a prepared party.
Alolan Persian · Elite
dark
Weak to
fightingbugfairy
Boss CP
30,064
Boss HP
20,000
Raid timer
300s
Party used
6

Trainers needed, by attacker level

Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.

Trainers needed to beat Alolan Persian at each attacker level
Attacker levelSix of the best counterA prepared partyA mixed local groupPrepared solo timeFaints per timer
Level 203(2.90)4(3.34)5(4.37)15:236.0
Level 253(2.62)3(2.96)4(3.74)13:366.0
Level 303(2.32)3(2.63)4(3.31)12:066.0
Level 353(2.19)3(2.48)4(3.16)11:246.0
Level 403(2.03)3(2.37)3(2.99)10:556.0
Level 452(1.96)3(2.30)3(2.89)10:345.9
Level 502(1.92)3(2.21)3(2.79)10:105.9

Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.

Six of the best counter

Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Keldeo2.03

A prepared party

Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Keldeo2.03
  • Lucario2.33
  • Terrakion2.37
  • Kartana2.43
  • Blaziken2.51
  • Zacian (Crowned Sword)2.56

A mixed local group

Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.

3 trainers at level 40

  • Tapu Koko2.90
  • Gallade2.93
  • Volcarona2.91
  • Breloom2.93
  • Tapu Bulu2.98
  • Raikou2.98

The party these numbers assume

1. Keldeo
Low Kick + Secret Sword
2. Lucario
Force Palm + Aura Sphere
3. Terrakion
Double Kick + Sacred Sword
4. Kartana
Fury Cutter + Sacred Sword
5. Blaziken
Counter + Aura Sphere
6. Zacian (Crowned Sword)
Metal Claw + Play Rough

See the full ranked counter list for Alolan Persian · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six

How this is worked out

The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.