Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 6 to be safe — 5 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 41,053
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 7(6.91) | 8(7.13) | 9(8.12) | 32:50 | 6.0 |
| Level 25 | 7(6.31) | 6(5.75) | 7(6.56) | 26:27 | 6.0 |
| Level 30 | 6(5.37) | 6(5.05) | 6(5.99) | 23:15 | 6.0 |
| Level 35 | 5(4.49) | 5(4.65) | 6(5.49) | 21:24 | 6.0 |
| Level 40 | 4(3.92) | 5(4.36) | 6(5.19) | 20:03 | 6.0 |
| Level 45 | 4(3.77) | 5(4.27) | 5(4.98) | 19:38 | 6.0 |
| Level 50 | 4(3.55) | 5(4.09) | 5(4.85) | 18:50 | 6.0 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
4 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)3.92
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
5 trainers at level 40
- Necrozma (Dawn Wings)3.92
- Mewtwo4.17
- Hoopa (Unbound)4.32
- Landorus (Therian)4.49
- Darkrai4.62
- Groudon4.63
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
6 trainers at level 40
- Kingambit5.03
- Absol5.07
- Hisuian Zoroark5.08
- Excadrill5.07
- Garchomp5.14
- Zamazenta (Crowned Shield)5.19
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Pecharunt · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.