Group size estimator
How many trainers do I need to invite?
Invite 2 to be safe — 2 if everyone is prepared
- Boss CP
- 20,535
- Boss HP
- 20,000
- Raid timer
- 300s
- Party used
- 6
Trainers needed, by attacker level
Scroll sideways for the mixed-lobby column.
| Attacker level | Six of the best counter | A prepared party | A mixed local group | Prepared solo time | Faints per timer |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Level 20 | 2(1.33) | 2(1.51) | 2(1.84) | 6:56 | 5.9 |
| Level 25 | 2(1.14) | 2(1.32) | 2(1.60) | 6:05 | 5.5 |
| Level 30 | 2(1.00) | 2(1.19) | 2(1.44) | 5:27 | 5.0 |
| Level 35 | 1(0.95) | 2(1.13) | 2(1.38) | 5:13 | 4.8 |
| Level 40 | 1(0.92) | 2(1.09) | 2(1.32) | 5:00 | 4.3 |
| Level 45 | 1(0.89) | 2(1.05) | 2(1.27) | 4:49 | 4.0 |
| Level 50 | 1(0.86) | 2(1.01) | 2(1.23) | 4:39 | 3.8 |
Whole trainers in bold, the raw estimator in brackets — 2.04 means two trainers is right on the line and three is comfortable.
Six of the best counter
Every trainer brings six copies of the single best counter — the theoretical floor.
1 trainer at level 40
- Blacephalon0.92
A prepared party
Each trainer brings the boss's top six counters, powered up and correctly TM'd.
2 trainers at level 40
- Blacephalon0.92
- Rayquaza1.00
- Reshiram1.09
- Salamence1.13
- Moltres1.16
- Yveltal1.20
A mixed local group
Ranks 13-24: reasonable but unoptimised parties, which is what a public lobby usually is.
2 trainers at level 40
- Darmanitan (Standard)1.27
- Blaziken1.26
- Enamorus (Incarnate)1.27
- Ho-Oh1.30
- Tornadus (Therian)1.31
- Delphox1.33
The party these numbers assume
See the full ranked counter list for Paras · check a real lobby (win chance, who brings what) · make a share card of the top six
How this is worked out
The boss is ranked once at level 40 with rankCached (the same memoised call /raids makes), then the three bands — rank 1, ranks 1-6, ranks 13-24 — are re-simulated at each attacker level with an 8-run Monte Carlo each. Holding the party fixed and moving only its level is deliberate: it answers "what if my party were level 20" rather than "what would a level-20 player's completely different party be", and it is about ten times cheaper than re-ranking every attacker seven times. The Estimator itself is Pokebattler's definition, time to win including rejoin time divided by the raid timer.